Dump: Relentless: From Good to Great to Unstoppable



作者是篮球教练.

本书的缺点

全部用篮球的例子 幸存者偏差
没有讲如何应用到篮球意外的领域, 显然不可能全部用 讨厌分为3种人来讨论. 尤其讨厌说cleaner就能实现所有, 而忽略没有足够强的能力前不可能成为cleaner的
Cal Newport说的, 好的工作要包含自主, 但达到这个的前提条件是之前要展示自己的实力 没有具体的实行计划
很多点都不是用于脑力工作者, 比如don’t think


学到的东西
在dedicate practice/flow中

to be comfortable being uncomfortable 这是其他dedicate work强调,但是没有像这本书这样那么那么强调的 the last mile, the last set, the last five minutes
play the last game of the season with the same intensity as you played the first shut out the fear, emotion and physical stress

不喜欢这本书的理由很多, 但喜欢作者说过程就是痛苦, 而不是像很多self-help的最一开始说,学了我的方法就能减少痛苦变得happy

这也是作者选指导对象的标准. 若没法承担痛苦, 那么就不要来他的gym. => 这本书有很大的bias. 不适合用在不想excel的领域

focus without thinking other emotions and thoughts outside the current fields



Title: Relentless: From Good to Great to Unstoppable
Authors: Tim S. Grover
Edition: 1
Finished Date: 2017-04-30
Rating: 5
Language: English
Genres: Neuroscience, Learning
Level: Entry
Publishers: Scribner
Publication Date: 2013-04-16
ISBN: 978-1476710938
Format: ePub, Pdf, Mobi
Pages: 256
Download: ePub Pdf Mobi
  • Decide
  • Commit
  • Act
  • Succeed
  • Repeat

the author believes

  • no “passion”
  • no “inner drive” 但作者换了一个词: dark side
作者和极端优秀的运动员接触很多. 本书就有幸存者偏差. 你怎么知道那些这样做的人也会失败

Success is about

  • dealing with reality

    • trust who you already are, i.e., no change

    • MBTI里的如何接受外部信息. intuition接受的信息算reality吗? 这本书适合sensing type作为第一和第二functions的人吧.

    • 没有教练etc等方法帮助,如何就知道你自己的能力处的位置, i.e. 很难获得正确的reality

      貌似这条简单, 其实很难做到

  • facing your demons and addictions

    • ignore all the negativity, fear, and distractions
    • aim to the best 这两条说的很对. 这样会减少精神负担, 减少损耗的精力

      • you cannot worry about whether your actions will upset other people
      • you cannot worry about what they will think of you
  • not putting a smiley face on everything you do

  • get to the Zone

  • do

  • 只是有可能而已,作者说得好绝对哦…achieve whatever you want, in whatever you do

relentless: never being satisfied, always driving to be the best, and then getting even better

作者忽视talent, wealth来谈成功. 这可能在体育运动上可行, 但是现实生活中的wealth就意味着有人脉,意味着容易赚钱. 体育运动中, wealth也代表着可以多试几个教练直到找到合适的, 穷人碰到好教练是可遇不可求的

作者的目标就是要成为最好的

a Cleaner’s attitude

  • I own this
  • take responsibility for everything 不会burn out嘛…
  • 其实就是Cal Newport说的, 好的工作要包含”自主”, 但达到这个的前提条件是之前要展示自己的实力
虽说作者强调不要管别人,但是他的写作里总是写别人对故事里的主角的反应, 来衬托主角. 我读得好精分 花了大段的篇幅描写一个成功后的人思想状态. 前提条件是”成功了以后, 或成为最好的之后”

不需要再所有方面成为Cleaner

  • career
  • relationship
  • interests

  • If you are trying to be a Cleaner in business, you will probably sacrifice your personal relationships

  • If you are a Cleaner in sports, you likely will not excel in business
  • If you want to be a Cleaner parent, your career will take a shit
Cleaners sacrifice the rest to get what they want the most. Most people stress about that. A Cleaner never does.这我同意

3-tiered system

  • coolers: good. most people

    allow life’s circumstances to decide for them

    • wait to be told what to do
    • watch to see what everyone else is doing
    • follow the leader

      a mediator, not a decision-maker

    • handle a certain amount of pressure when things are going well

    • but when things get too intense, he kicks the problem over to someone else
    • can make a huge play, but he is not ultimately responsible for the outcome
    • is the setup guy, keeping things cool until the Closer or Cleaner can take over
  • closers: great. a smaller percentage

    decide what they want and say “good enough” when they get it

    • can handle a lot of pressure
    • get the job done if you put him in the right situation and tell him exactly what you need him to do
    • will study all sorts of scenarios so he can anticipate what might happen, but he is uncomfortable when faced with something unexpected
    • seek attention and credit
    • is aware of what everyone else is doing and what others think of him
    • love the rewards and perks associated with his fame and would choose financial security over winning or success

      感觉像是多个性格类型的综合体
  • cleaners: unstoppable

    not even define success because they keep raising the bar on what that means

    • is rarely understood

keep push yourself harder



delicate practice

to be comfortable being uncomfortable 这是其他dedicate work强调,但是没有像这本书这样那么那么强调的 the last mile, the last set, the last five minutes
play the last game of the season with the same intensity as you played the first shut out the fear, emotion and physical stress

不喜欢这本书的理由很多, 但喜欢作者说过程就是痛苦, 而不是像很多self-help的最一开始说,学了我的方法就能减少痛苦变得happy

这也是作者选指导对象的标准. 若没法承担痛苦, 那么就不要来他的gym. => 这本书有很大的bias. 不适合用在不想excel的领域

focus without thinking other emotions and thoughts outside the current fields

commit to work at the highest level of intensity, every moment, in everything you do, constantly working on your body, your skills, your preparation, leaving no detail to chance

作者认为mind比physical训练重要, 他假设大家已经有talent. 为什么不能是同等重要. 即使我在初中时候的mental很厉害, 也没见我body怎么强了. 当然人只可能在有限的几个领域做到最好, 其他的一般般

no shortcut: set goal, then do

any workouts involving the words “easy” and “comfort” are not workouts

get into the Zone, shut out everything else

作者认为真的in zone就是会被认为是jerk, rude, uncommunicative

不知道是不是适用于所有领域

in the Zone only feel calm

  • not relaxing or peaceful
  • but intensely focused
是flow吗? 感觉作者把dedicate practice和flow是同时发生
You are thinking. Don’t think. 这条不适合于脑力工作者 我的理解: the fastest way to go out of the flow/dedicate practice is to allow emotions to drive actions 这就是我希望自己能冷静理智客观的原因吧
整本书在写dedicate practice和flow
特点: 从insider的角度写 比 只看他人的描述会有更加深的体悟

know exactly who you are

在自己想发展的领域, stop thinking about the restrictions and limitations, the negativity and doubt

作者把训练后得到的条件发射和本能的条件反射混在一起

好像训练后得到的条件反射就不需要之前的训练就能得到正确的条件反射…

把条件反射认为是在in the zone….

作者反对overthinking, overanalyzing, reacting instead of acting

其实这种想法很消极

脑力工作者所研究的问题,根本就不可能是条件反射想出来的,否则要他们做什么research
  • instinct: tell what you have learned
  • research: tell what others have learned

dark side

自主

但没有锻炼力量,不可能得到”自主”

放弃读了